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Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom Cock, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it's actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).

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Mesa, AZ

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Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom Cock, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it's actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).

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English

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877-397-5666


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Qs and Stuff

4/17/2026
A wide-ranging Q&A episode tackles the real-world tradeoffs investors actually face: whether Paul Merriman’s aggressive small/value “ultimate” portfolio is worth the complexity and risk, how much stock to put in scary online bank reviews versus FDIC reality, and how to find advice when you don’t want someone managing your money. Don also explains why FAFSA tricks with traditional IRA contributions don’t work, how to control capital gains taxes using specific share identification, and—somehow—confirms he was the voice behind a powerful Auschwitz exhibit. Practical, skeptical, and very Don. 0:05 Friday Q&A intro and how to submit questions 1:49 Merriman 10-fund portfolio vs “owning the market” 5:21 Don confirms Auschwitz exhibit voiceover work 6:54 Bread Savings reviews, withdrawal limits, and FDIC reality 9:38 Finding tax-only retirement advice (CPA vs hourly planner vs EA) 12:05 FAFSA myth: traditional IRA won’t lower aid eligibility 13:55 Selling ETFs: minimizing taxes with specific lot selection 17:01 Podcast hosting quirks and MP3 download workaround Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:20:34

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Annuity Tricks

4/16/2026
Annuities promise peace of mind—but often at a steep and poorly understood cost. Don and Tom break down when (rarely) annuities might make sense, why most—including fixed indexed annuities and QLACs—tilt heavily in favor of the insurance company, and how investors can replicate “guaranteed income” with a disciplined portfolio instead. They also take on a listener question about escaping high fees at Edward Jones (spoiler: yes, run) and dismantle a pitch for a Bitcoin-backed “bond alternative,” explaining why high yields usually signal high risk—and why crypto still fails the basic test of having a rational investment purpose. 0:11 Questionable motives behind much of today’s investing advice 0:50 Why annuities appeal—turning savings into a “personal pension” 2:09 The illusion of annuity “returns” vs. reality of payouts 4:08 Where annuity decisions get complicated—and costly 5:21 Why using IRA money for annuities often makes little sense 5:50 QLACs explained—and the uncomfortable truth about dying early 7:37 The only annuity worth considering: SPIA (and its trade-offs) 8:38 QLAC math vs. simple investing—who really wins 10:33 The hidden downsides: illiquidity, opacity, and insurer risk 11:16 Where (and how) to actually shop for annuities safely 14:05 Why indexed annuities dominate—and why that’s a red flag 15:42 The myth of “market returns without risk” 16:45 Building your own income stream without annuities 18:47 Listener: escaping high fees at Edward Jones 20:09 Simple, low-cost portfolio solutions for a 30-year-old 23:08 Listener: Bitcoin-backed “bond replacement” pitch 25:11 Why high yields (11%+) scream risk, not safety 27:06 The danger of replacing bonds with speculative assets 28:59 Final blunt take: crypto as an investment “has no there there” Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:34:00

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Start Young

4/15/2026
Starting early beats almost everything else in investing—and this episode drives that home with eye-opening math and a brand-new tool for jumpstarting a kid’s retirement. Don and Tom break down the new “Youth Retirement Account” concept (government seed money plus family contributions), compare it to Roth IRAs and 529 rollovers, and show how relatively modest early contributions can grow into millions. Then they pivot to a listener question about a Nationwide indexed annuity and dismantle the sales pitch—exposing hidden commissions, capped returns, and why these products rarely deliver what they promise. It’s a mix of optimism (you can set your kid up for life) and skepticism (don’t fall for complicated insurance products pretending to be investments). 0:00 The only near-guarantee in investing: start early, win big 1:24 Compounding as the real “eighth wonder” 2:28 Turning $50K in your 20s into ~$1M by retirement 3:57 Introducing “Youth Retirement Accounts” (YRA concept) 5:08 Government $1,000 seed + up to $5,000/year contributions 6:59 Why waiting until 24 to access matters (tax rules) 7:34 Converting to Roth and the path to ~$3M tax-free 9:08 Total cost math: ~$135K to fund a lifetime retirement 10:33 Why earned income + Roth IRA is still the gold standard 11:40 529-to-Roth rollover strategy (up to $35K) 13:06 Gifting strategies: how to ask family to fund accounts 15:18 Why even small contributions can create huge outcomes 17:37 Listener question: Nationwide indexed annuity pitch 19:34 The “no commission” myth and surrender charges 20:06 Participation rates, caps, and confusing index formulas 21:34 Real-world returns: often 2%–5%, not market-like 22:46 When annuities might make sense (SPIAs only) 23:29 Why most annuities are sold, not bought 24:57 Why RetireMeet doesn’t travel well beyond Seattle 26:05 How to submit listener questions Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:29:50

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On Your Side?

4/14/2026
This episode exposes the misleading language behind “best interest” financial sales practices, using the insurance-backed fight against the Department of Labor’s fiduciary rule as the main example. Don and Tom explain why rolling money from a 401(k) or 403(b) into an IRA can leave investors vulnerable to commissions, conflicts, vague disclosures, and expensive products dressed up as advice. They break down the difference between true fiduciary advice, so-called best-interest standards, and bare-minimum suitability, then answer listener questions on pension-heavy asset allocation, Delaware Statutory Trusts, and why some seemingly clever planning ideas are often more trouble than they’re worth. 0:00 “Federation of Americans for Consumer Choice” irony and setup 0:52 Fiduciary rule battle with the Department of Labor (and why it keeps dying) 1:43 Who’s really behind the “consumer choice” push (insurance industry) 2:41 Why retirement rollovers (401k → IRA) are the financial “wild west” 3:13 $841B rollover stat and loss of ERISA protections 4:34 Who actually operates under a true fiduciary standard 5:14 Why rollovers require serious skepticism (fees, conflicts, hidden costs) 6:10 Form BI and the illusion of “best interest” 7:09 Insurance “best interest” rules and the loophole problem 8:23 Disclosure theater: legal cover vs real transparency 9:40 What a fiduciary does NOT guarantee (returns, cost, communication) 10:47 Why even fiduciaries can be expensive 10:58 The three standards explained: fiduciary vs best interest vs suitability 12:02 “It’s not terrible” — the low bar of suitability 13:03 Advice vs sales pitch: how most investors get fooled 13:38 Listener case: pension-heavy early retirement plan 17:18 Pension as “bond substitute” debate 19:08 Portfolio breakdown and fund choices (Vanguard, Avantis) 20:55 Simplicity vs complexity across multiple accounts 21:58 Risk reduction suggestion despite strong financial position 24:13 Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs): tax deferral vs massive fees 25:59 DST downsides: illiquidity, lack of control, high commissions 26:29 Bottom line on DSTs: “pay your taxes and move on” 27:12 Listener suggestion: “Can I afford it?” segment 27:50 Why personalized affordability segments are impractical 29:37 Show longevity discussion and future timeline 31:11 Financial Physics book plug (Kindle version now available) Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:35:43

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Miss a Stock...

4/13/2026
A century-long study by Hendrik Bessembinder reveals a stunning truth about investing: while the U.S. stock market produced enormous overall wealth, the vast majority of individual stocks were losers, with just 46 companies responsible for half of all gains. Don and Tom unpack what this means for investors—namely, that stock picking is essentially a losing game driven more by luck than skill, and that broad diversification through index investing is the only reliable way to capture market returns. They also tackle a listener question on annuities vs. CDs, highlighting trade-offs between yield, safety, and liquidity, while reinforcing their long-standing skepticism of locking up money for marginal gains. 0:13 “Miss a day, miss a lot” — but missing the right stocks matters far more 1:09 Introduction to Bessembinder’s 100-year stock market study 2:35 30,000 stocks, 30,000% total return — but context matters 3:21 Median stock return is negative — most stocks lose money 3:55 60% of stocks destroy wealth; only a minority create gains 5:25 Just 46 companies generate half of all market wealth 6:24 The near impossibility of picking winning stocks consistently 7:01 Why stock picking is closer to lottery odds than skill 7:56 Broad diversification as the only reliable strategy 8:50 Owning the entire market captures the winners automatically 9:25 Active management vs. indexing — evidence vs. anecdotes 10:00 Skill vs. luck in outperforming managers (near zero true skill) 11:19 Behavioral flaws: confusing stories with evidence 12:25 Fundamentals vs. sentiment in long-term stock performance 12:59 Emotional investing pitfalls and the need for discipline 13:42 Listener question: annuity vs. CD for short-term cash 15:30 Risks of annuities vs. FDIC-insured alternatives 16:37 Liquidity trade-offs and current CD rate comparisons 18:05 Laddering CDs vs. locking into annuities 18:33 Listener question on podcast changes post-radio transition 19:36 Reflections on leaving live radio and moving fully to podcast 22:06 Free portfolio reviews and fiduciary advice offer 23:01 Call for listener support as big-name podcasts grow Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:25:08

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Whole Lotta Questions

4/10/2026
This Friday Q&A episode of Talking Real Money features a surge in listener questions, covering key retirement and investing topics including IRA inheritance strategies, borrowing in retirement, how to find fiduciary advisors, the powerful tax advantages of HSAs, pension timing decisions, and whether Robinhood’s 2% IRA transfer bonus is worth the trade-offs. Don emphasizes simplicity and tax efficiency—favoring IRA rollovers over inherited structures for spouses, cautioning that borrowing becomes harder in retirement, praising HSAs as one of the best tax-advantaged tools available, encouraging aggressive Roth saving to bridge early retirement gaps, and warning that “free money” incentives like Robinhood’s may come with hidden costs, particularly through payment-for-order-flow execution. 0:05 Shift to podcast-only boosts listener call volume 2:26 Spousal IRA decision: inherited vs rollover strategy 5:59 Why rollover IRAs usually win for older surviving spouses 6:26 Borrowing in retirement: income limits and lender challenges 8:03 Alternative borrowing strategies and why cash often wins 9:07 How to find fiduciary advisors on the website 10:16 HSA explained: triple tax advantage and retirement use 12:41 Pension planning and early retirement trade-offs 14:08 Why delaying pension and Social Security pays off 15:35 Roth IRA as a bridge strategy for early retirement 18:33 Robinhood 2% IRA transfer: risks vs reward 19:49 Payment-for-order-flow and why execution quality matters 21:54 Final thoughts: simplicity, discipline, and avoiding gimmicks Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:25:07

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Simple Beats "Smart"

4/9/2026
Don and Tom tear into Kiplinger’s roundup of “best money advice,” separating the genuinely useful from the obvious, the flawed, and the downright silly. They agree that core principles like living below your means, automating investing, and seeking qualified fiduciary advice still reign supreme, while pushing back on oversimplified takes about debt, life decisions, and self-auditing. The conversation reinforces a familiar truth: personal finance isn’t about clever hacks—it’s about consistent behavior, smart systems, and avoiding the many ways people sabotage themselves. Listener questions cover fund-of-funds expense ratios (no stacking), high-yield savings tradeoffs, and the real cost of chasing slightly better interest rates. 0:05 Chasing the “best money advice of all time” (and where it definitely isn’t) 1:44 Kiplinger roundup sparks review of popular financial advice 3:10 Dave Ramsey basics—simple, correct, and incomplete 4:29 The myth of easy money and cultural obsession with getting rich quick 5:18 Getting help from professionals (and why most aren’t actually professionals) 6:07 “Good vs. bad debt” debate and the problem with vague advice 7:32 Aligning money with values… or just saying something that sounds nice 7:39 “Marry wisely” as financial advice (yes, really) 9:02 Automating finances as one of the most effective strategies 10:40 Why friends and family are often terrible sources of financial advice 10:53 Should life decisions be based on money? (spoiler: they usually are) 12:33 Self-audits vs. professional guidance—can you really judge yourself? 13:42 The foundational rule: spend less than you make 14:31 Most people don’t know what they actually spend 15:00 Listener question: AVGE / AVGV expense ratios—no fee stacking 17:50 PI Bank high-yield savings—rate vs. usability tradeoffs 19:25 Wire transfer fees and when higher yields actually matter 21:31 Practical ways to manage savings movement costs 22:17 Don’s Financial FYSICS book—pricing, Kindle version, and Amazon quirks Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:27:25

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What is an Advisor?

4/8/2026
This episode cuts through the marketing fog around “financial advisors,” breaking them into three real categories—brokers, insurance agents, and fiduciary investment advisors—and exposing how incentives, commissions, and murky regulations shape the advice investors receive. Don and Tom highlight the industry’s gradual shift away from commissions while warning that titles like “fiduciary” or “CFP” don’t guarantee behavior. A listener segment dives into retirement portfolio construction, clarifying misconceptions about bond funds like BND, sequence risk strategies, and the role of safe assets. The episode closes by reframing trendy concepts like “liability matching portfolios” as common-sense planning: keep near-term spending safe and let long-term money grow. 0:05 Three types of “financial advisors” and why the title means nothing 0:51 Brokers vs RIAs vs insurance agents—what they actually do 2:10 Fiduciary confusion and “part-time fiduciaries” 3:10 How brokers really operate (transactions, firm-first incentives) 6:00 Insurance agents, annuities, and massive hidden commissions 7:47 Regulation gaps and misleading “no commission” language 8:15 Investment advisors (RIAs) and the fiduciary standard (with caveats) 9:42 CFP designation—rigorous, but not a guarantee of behavior 10:36 Portfolio reality: “a collection of ideas” vs an actual plan 11:50 Industry trend: slow death of commissions and rise of fee-only 15:13 Listener: retirement portfolio, glide path, and bond confusion 18:15 BND vs Treasuries—risk, diversification, and reality 19:59 Sequence risk strategy—lower equities early, increase later 21:31 2022 bond drop explained (rates, not failure) 23:11 Managing volatility fear—cash buffers vs bond funds 24:01 Practical solution: mix of bonds, CDs, and cash 28:07 Liability Matching Portfolio (LMP) vs “bucket strategy” 31:01 Core takeaway: match short-term needs with safe assets, let rest grow Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:35:42

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Modern Bucket Shops

4/7/2026
Don and Tom kick things off with a colorful history lesson on 19th-century “bucket shops,” drawing a sharp parallel to today’s emerging world of tokenized securities—digital representations of stocks traded on blockchain platforms. While proponents tout 24/7 trading and faster settlement, the hosts question the real value, highlighting added complexity, thin trading, pricing deviations, and unclear ownership structures. They frame tokenized investing as a solution in search of a problem—one that primarily serves speculators rather than long-term investors. The episode reinforces a familiar theme: avoid unnecessary complexity, ignore trading temptations, and stick with disciplined, low-cost investing. Listener questions cover whether retirees still need life insurance (generally no, if financially secure) and clarify that rebalancing means selling winners and buying laggards—not chasing losses. 0:05 Intro and setup with historical market story 0:24 Bucket shops explained—early stock market gambling 1:50 Transition to modern “tokenized securities” 2:35 What tokenized stocks are and how they trade 24/7 5:27 Blockchain explained in plain English 6:23 Ownership confusion—what do you actually own? 7:53 Custodian risk and structural concerns 8:33 Pricing issues and thin trading risks 9:01 Tokenization compared to past financial “innovations” (CDOs) 10:54 Why investors should ignore tokenized securities 11:26 New call-in system for podcast listeners 12:03 Listener question: keep or drop term life insurance in retirement 13:02 Why life insurance is unnecessary for financially secure retirees 15:05 Listener question: selling losers vs. rebalancing 16:05 Proper rebalancing strategy explained (sell high, buy low) 17:31 Jack Bogle philosophy—do less, win more Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:20:54

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Retiree Ripoffs

4/6/2026
This episode shifts from investing to the growing threat of scams—especially targeting older adults—breaking down how common fraud tactics work, from fake virus alerts and spoofed calls to AI-driven voice cloning and recovery scams. Don and Tom emphasize a simple but powerful rule: if you didn’t initiate the contact, assume it’s a scam, and never act under pressure. The conversation then pivots to listener questions, covering how to construct a globally diversified portfolio with proper U.S./international balance, how to structure fixed income for retirement income needs, and why investors should resist the urge to “take winnings” after gains—focusing instead on long-term discipline and occasional rebalancing. 0:05 Scams targeting older adults and why susceptibility increases 1:21 AARP article and life in The Villages as a scam hotspot backdrop 3:05 Fake virus alerts and tech support scams (iPad example, $25K loss) 6:10 Scale of scam losses (older Americans, underreporting, $5B+ impact) 6:48 Common scam types: fake purchases, investment fraud, and urgency tactics 7:23 Caller ID spoofing and law enforcement impersonation scams 8:25 AI voice cloning and evolving scam sophistication 8:39 Call screening tools and reducing scam exposure 9:53 Bank impersonation scams using stolen personal data 11:14 IRS scams—what the IRS actually does (mail only) 11:57 Key defense rule: urgency = scam 12:47 “Recovery scams” targeting prior victims 13:27 Core principle: assume unsolicited contact is fraudulent 14:44 Transition to listener Q&A intro and contact methods 16:07 Portfolio construction: balancing U.S. vs international exposure using ETFs 18:00 Fixed income strategy: BND vs CDs, money markets, income buckets 19:26 Listener question: should you “take profits” after gains? 20:03 Why long-term investing ≠ gambling (stay invested vs timing) 21:39 Exception: rebalancing vs profit-taking 22:38 Historical perspective on long-term economic growth Questions? Comments? Click!

Duration:00:27:12

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Questions Aplenty

4/3/2026
Questions? Comments? This Q&A episode tackles a mix of practical retirement and investing questions, starting with why spousal Social Security benefits rarely change the core advice to delay claiming. Don explains the limits of basic retirement calculators versus more robust planning tools, then reassures a late-starting saver that simple, low-cost investing (like target-date funds) often beats complexity. A listener’s story about $242 stock commissions leads into a blunt reality check on day trading (spoiler: still a losing game), while another question explores how and when to share wealth details with adult children. The episode wraps with a clear affirmation of total-market investing—and a striking demo of AI audio cleanup that turns an unusable question into something crystal clear. 0:11 Intro to Q&A format and how listeners submit questions 1:32 Social Security spousal benefits and why they rarely change the “delay” strategy 4:13 What to look for in retirement calculators (and best free options) 6:43 Late-start saver with pension: Roth strategy and keeping investing simple 10:58 $242 commissions and the fall of high-cost brokerage trading 12:00 Day trading reality: why most lose (and why firms loved it) 14:57 Sharing wealth details with adult children and choosing a financial “leader” 18:00 AI audio enhancement demo—bad recording vs. cleaned version 19:06 Total market investing: owning everything vs. chasing winners 22:22 Wrap-up and advisor offer

Duration:00:25:28

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Yield Trap

4/2/2026
Questions? Comments? This episode opens with a blistering takedown of sensationalized financial media, using a Kiplinger income piece as the latest example of how risky, high-fee junk bond products get dressed up as safe income solutions for yield-hungry investors. Don and Tom explain why bonds are supposed to provide stability, not speculative upside, and why chasing eye-popping payouts usually means swallowing hidden risk, ugly expenses, and stock-like volatility. They then pivot to listener questions on building a teen’s Roth IRA, whether Avantis or Dimensional funds make more sense than Vanguard for a small/value tilt, and why their website still shows mutual funds more prominently than ETFs, before wrapping with some loose studio banter and a reminder to send questions through TalkingRealMoney.com. 0:04 Rant on terrible financial advice and declining media trust 0:24 Criticism of Kiplinger and “investment porn” content 1:08 Concerns about newsletter-driven incentives 2:35 Warning against using short-term returns 4:13 Breakdown of Nuveen Multi-Asset Income Fund and unrealistic yield claims 5:08 Junk bond exposure and credit risk explained 6:18 Expense shock: 0.03% vs 3.38% 7:18 High yields = high risk reality 8:01 “Safe income” claim debunked 8:57 Collapse risk in downturns 9:37 Core principle: risk and return are linked 10:38 Fed/yield curve speculation criticism 10:56 Purpose of bonds: stability vs yield 11:27 Bonds as capital preservation, not return drivers 12:05 Example of high-cost junk bond ETF 12:12 Fewer trustworthy financial sources 13:16 Stop consuming financial media noise 13:38 Do something better with your time 14:32 Listener: teen Roth IRA strategy 16:33 Recommendation: AVGV single-fund approach 17:40 Fund-of-funds diversification explained 18:38 Listener: Vanguard vs Dimensional Fund Advisors / Avantis 19:45 Case for small/value tilt 21:59 Listener: ETF vs mutual fund inconsistency 24:12 Simple portfolio: DFAW / AVGE + BND 25:11 Studio banter and mic technique Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:29:51

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Final Broadcast - Two

4/1/2026
Questions? Comments? In the final hour of the radio show, Don and Tom blend nostalgia with a blunt reality check—highlighting the looming Social Security shortfall that could force 20–25% benefit cuts within a decade. They explore politically painful solutions (tax increases, benefit reductions, later retirement ages), while reinforcing their core investing philosophy: ignore fear-driven moves like chasing gold, stay diversified, and avoid market timing. Listener calls drive discussions on fiduciary advice, ethical investing dilemmas, and planning for less financially engaged spouses. The show closes with gratitude, humor, and a transition to a podcast-only future—same mission, fewer commercials, and more freedom. 0:05 Aging perspective and how quickly decades pass 2:28 Social Security crisis and projected 20–25% benefit cuts 4:46 Proposed fixes: higher taxes, later retirement, reduced COLA 7:11 Caller considers switching from index funds to gold 8:17 Why gold is a poor long-term investment 11:10 Market timing is impossible to do consistently 15:07 Fiduciary vs. non-fiduciary advisors (Fidelity discussion) 17:16 “Best interest” standard vs. true fiduciary duty 21:26 Listener reminder: stay the course during market fear 24:03 Ethical investing and whether profits justify harm 27:32 ESG limitations and the difficulty of “pure” investing 28:52 “Pay yourself first” as foundational financial advice 31:23 Listener gratitude and behavioral investing success 32:55 Planning for a less-engaged spouse and advisor relationships 34:48 Longtime listener appreciation and show legacy 37:23 Transition from radio to podcast and what changes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:40:38

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Final Broadcast - One

3/31/2026
Questions? Comments? The final live radio episode of Talking Real Money blends nostalgia, listener appreciation, and core investing philosophy. Don and Tom reflect on nearly four decades of broadcasting while reinforcing their timeless message: consistent investing beats prediction. Using a simple S&P 500 example, they illustrate how discipline—not brilliance—builds wealth. They address current market declines with calm realism, urging listeners to ignore noise and stick to a plan. Calls cover everything from podcast transition logistics and annuity sales traps to credit freezes, tax surprises from brokerage accounts, and when to fire an advisor—ending the radio era exactly as it ran: practical, skeptical, and relentlessly investor-first. 0:04 Emotional opening and end of the radio era 0:46 Show history back to 1988 and investing perspective 1:55 $500/month S&P 500 example → ~$3.1M outcome 2:43 Market fears vs long-term investing reality 5:16 Podcast growth to #43 in U.S. investing category 6:40 Market drop discussion and “what should you do?” 7:29 Core advice: plan, ignore predictions, stay disciplined 8:57 Podcast call-in format going forward (Car Talk style) 11:01 How to challenge annuity salespeople effectively 13:22 Call from Paul Merriman reflecting on legacy 16:55 Listener success story: Roth IRA to $500K 20:32 Credit score drop and how to check/freezes 26:35 Why freezing credit is a smart default move 27:47 Tax shock from brokerage gains and hidden trading issues 32:11 Warning signs of poor advisor behavior (Wells Fargo case) 34:08 When to fire an advisor (fees, complexity, value gap) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:39:36

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College Pays

3/30/2026
Questions? Comments? This episode mixes studio banter with a surprisingly substantive look at education and investing trade-offs. Don and Tom walk through data on the lowest-paying college majors, highlighting that many bachelor’s degrees—especially in education and the arts—start and stay low in income unless paired with advanced study. They push back on the idea that college isn’t worth it, citing Federal Reserve data showing higher lifetime earnings, better job stability, and longer life expectancy for graduates, while emphasizing the real danger: taking on large debt for low-paying fields. Listener questions cover Roth conversions (worth considering carefully within tax brackets), why 529 plans still beat so-called “Trump accounts,” and the flaws in covered-call income ETFs like JEPI—ultimately reinforcing their core philosophy: ignore gimmicks, focus on total return, and keep investing simple. 0:04 Almost-live intro from “studio” (aka broom closet) and end of radio era 2:10 Lowest-paying college majors and why outcomes vary 3:23 Pharmacy (without grad school) and theology incomes 4:22 Social services, performing arts, and education pay realities 5:42 Liberal arts debate—value vs. earning potential 7:42 Biology, hospitality, psychology, and other $45K careers 9:22 Should you skip college? ROI vs. cost and debt 10:44 Federal Reserve data on college ROI and lifetime earnings 11:48 Job stability, longevity, and socioeconomic effects of degrees 12:42 Mid-career earnings—education still lags badly 14:32 The real issue: debt vs. income mismatch 16:45 Roth conversion question—when it might (and might not) make sense 19:21 529 plans vs. “Trump accounts” for kids’ savings 20:59 Covered call ETFs (JEPI, etc.) and income strategy pitfalls 22:06 Why income-focused funds don’t reduce risk 23:07 Expense drag and hidden costs in “income” ETFs 24:14 Gimmick investing vs. simple total return strategy 25:43 Bellevue weather, Lyft misadventure, and wrap-up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:29:05

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Asking Away

3/27/2026
Questions? Comments? A lively Friday Q&A kicks off with some unintended voice effects courtesy of Don’s grandkids before diving into listener questions on money market funds versus high-yield savings accounts, Roth vs. traditional 401(k) decisions in high tax brackets, expense ratios in fund-of-funds like Avantis ETFs, the limited value of international bonds, the reality behind indexed annuity caps, and whether investors should ever move beyond simple one-fund portfolios. The throughline: keep it simple, understand risk vs. safety, and don’t overestimate your ability to outsmart well-constructed investment strategies. 0:04 Grandkids + Rodecaster voice effects open 1:55 HYSA vs. Schwab money market funds (SWVXX, Treasury MMFs) 3:54 Risk spectrum: prime vs. government money markets 5:35 Why some online banks are ditching ACH transfers 6:54 Roth vs. traditional 401(k) in a high tax bracket 8:11 Blended strategy and tax flexibility over time 10:21 AVGV expense ratio—are fees stacked? 10:47 Fund-of-funds pricing explained (no double dipping) 11:41 International bonds: worth it or unnecessary complexity? 13:22 Indexed annuity caps—can they go up? (the reality) 15:33 Why indexed annuities remain opaque and costly 16:08 One-fund portfolios vs. DIY allocation thresholds 17:42 Why simplicity often beats customization 18:47 Don’s own one-fund 401(k) approach 19:32 Plug: Short Storyverses podcasts 20:06 Plug: Financial Fysics Kindle release Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:22:39

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Your Retirement Number

3/26/2026
Questions? Comments? The idea of a universal “retirement number” gets dismantled as misleading and overly simplistic, with Don and Tom arguing that retirement planning is deeply personal and depends on spending, income sources, and lifestyle. They walk through a practical way to calculate your own number—starting with real spending, subtracting Social Security and any pension, and determining what your portfolio must generate—while warning against blind reliance on rules like the $1 million target or aggressive withdrawal rates. The episode also tackles listener questions on ETF expense differences, early retirement withdrawal rules, and a real-world case involving retirement income and long-term care planning, emphasizing conservative strategies and the importance of housing equity in later-life care decisions. 0:04 The myth of “your retirement number” 0:28 Why $1 million became the default—and why it’s wrong 2:17 Inflation and the erosion of the “millionaire” benchmark 2:39 The only correct answer: “it depends” 3:17 The 4% rule origin and its limitations 4:04 How to actually calculate your retirement number 4:55 Northwestern Mutual’s $1.26M average—and cost skepticism 6:11 Reality check: most retirees don’t have pensions 6:46 The real starting point—what you actually spend 8:11 Reverse engineering your withdrawal needs 8:31 Why 6%+ withdrawal rates are dangerous 9:10 The truth about “safe” withdrawal rates 10:12 The importance of saving 15–20% early 10:41 New website podcast player and listener access 12:49 ETF expense differences: VBR vs VSIAX discussion 16:03 Rule of 55 vs. substantially equal payments 17:24 Listener case: $72K IRA and long-term care planning 18:35 Why $72K won’t cover care—housing becomes the asset 19:34 Conservative investing for near-term care needs 20:45 Reverse mortgage as a care funding strategy 22:23 Upcoming change: live listener calls on Fridays 23:52 Free portfolio review offer (fiduciary advisors) 24:51 Joke math on annuity commissions 25:47 Closing thoughts and transition to podcast-only futur Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:27:43

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Retirement Myths

3/25/2026
Questions? Comments? As Talking Real Money moves into its final week on terrestrial radio, Don and Tom mix transition talk with a practical rundown of common retirement myths. They push back on the idea that expenses automatically fall in retirement, warn that Social Security was never meant to cover everything, and explain why relying on the market alone can be dangerous when withdrawals begin. Callers bring in questions about the sketchy-sounding Quantum X trading platform, required minimum distributions, whether a high-income worker can retire at 62, ETF bid/ask spreads, and where to hold bonds when a 401(k) offers outrageously expensive fund options. The episode also doubles as a preview of how listeners can keep calling and interacting once the show becomes podcast-only. 0:04 Final countdown to the end of the radio show and shift to podcast-only 1:55 Retirement myths theme introduced 2:37 Myth #1: You’ll need less money in retirement 4:02 Myth #2: Social Security will cover most of your needs 5:41 Myth #3: The market will do all the heavy lifting 7:21 Caller asks about Quantum X; Don and Tom warn it looks like nonsense or worse 9:27 Simple alternative offered: broad diversification with VT 10:52 Caller asks about RMD confusion across multiple accounts 12:01 Advice to simplify scattered retirement accounts 13:58 More digging into Quantum X raises additional scam concerns 16:13 Caller asks if he can retire at 62 with substantial savings and pension income 17:21 Don presses on actual spending, not income, as the key retirement measure 21:23 Myth #4: You’ll be able to work as long as you want 23:34 Myth #5: Taxes will be much lower in retirement 26:13 Podcast listening gets easier through the website and apps 29:22 Caller asks about ETF bid/ask spreads, especially DFAW versus VT 32:55 Caller asks where to hold bonds when 401(k) bond fund costs are absurdly high 35:12 After-hours pricing explains bizarre ETF spread quotes 36:37 Example of a shockingly expensive Transamerica bond fund 38:04 How listeners can keep calling and participating after radio ends Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:41:14

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You Can't Know

3/24/2026
Questions? Comments? With geopolitical tension rattling markets and investors stampeding into cash, gold, and energy, Don and Tom step back to deliver a familiar message: nobody knows what’s next—and anyone claiming otherwise is selling something. They walk through the behavioral traps of market timing, explain why diversification (especially beyond U.S. large caps) is quietly doing its job, and highlight the role of small cap and micro-cap stocks as part of a broader portfolio—not a silver bullet. Along the way, they mix in listener calls, practical tips (including liquidity strategies and avoiding irreversible investments), and a running acknowledgment that while their radio era is ending, the core mission—keeping investors from doing something dumb—isn’t going anywhere. 0:04 CBS Radio shutdown vs. TRM leaving radio—industry shift toward podcasts 1:32 War-driven market anxiety: money flows to cash, gold, and energy 2:54 Interest rate expectations flip—uncertainty dominates 3:16 Jason Zweig warning: beware “I know what’s next” pitches 4:24 Market timing trap—getting back in is the real failure point 5:37 Diversification reality—why global exposure smooths outcomes 7:08 Financial Fysics Kindle release and podcast transition reminders 9:53 “Retirement Plan” film event plug and discussion preview 13:37 Listener question: small cap value vs. large cap performance 15:44 Correlation explained—why asset classes don’t move in lockstep 16:29 Small cap value premium—historical outperformance rationale 21:49 Micro-cap ETF discussion (DFMC)—extreme diversification option 24:47 Caution: aggressive funds are optional, not necessary 27:52 Listener success story—laddering cash with CDs for caregiving 33:40 Core advice: avoid irreversible financial decisions 34:49 Liquidity matters—dangers of annuities and illiquid investments 35:55 Wall Street “new ideas” skepticism—most benefit the seller 36:21 Final push: transition to podcast-only format Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:39:08

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Icy Market

3/23/2026
Questions? Comments? The housing market is stuck in an unusual freeze, driven by the lingering effects of ultra-low COVID-era mortgage rates, reduced housing inventory, and sharply higher income requirements for buyers. With fewer people moving, less new construction, and more all-cash purchases, affordability has deteriorated and first-time buyers are older than ever. Don and Tom argue that homeownership is often overrated as an investment and suggest renting may be the more rational choice for many. They also tackle listener questions on Robinhood’s 2% transfer bonus (tempting but tied to a five-year lockup), comparisons between today’s market and 1929 (very different structurally), and the limits of 529-to-Roth conversion strategies. Along the way, they remind us that humans—like chimps—are irresistibly drawn to shiny objects, which often leads to poor financial decisions. 0:04 Housing market shift and mortgage demand decline 1:18 COVID-era rates and the “locked-in homeowner” effect 2:23 Inventory shortage and collapse in new construction 2:41 Income needed to buy a home jumps dramatically 3:27 First-time buyers getting older and priced out 4:21 Why the housing market feels “frozen” 5:35 Mortgage rates vs. psychological anchoring to 2% loans 6:23 Advice: rent before buying in uncertain markets 7:36 Flexibility in location and housing expectations 9:20 Helping family vs. accepting renting as a long-term solution 10:05 Why homeownership is not a great investment 11:05 Hidden and unpredictable costs of owning vs. renting 11:56 Possible long-term shift toward renting culture 13:46 Robinhood 2% transfer bonus—too good to be true? 15:13 The five-year lockup and real cost of “free money” 16:38 Temptation vs. trust issues with Robinhood 17:18 Listener question on 1929 comparisons 18:25 Why today’s market is fundamentally different from 1929 20:34 Extreme leverage and speculation in the 1920s 22:03 Regulatory differences and modern safeguards 23:32 529 plan to Roth IRA conversion rules explained 24:47 Beneficiary changes reset the 15-year clock 25:29 “Shiny object” behavior and investing mistakes 27:12 Human nature, speculation, and financial decisions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:00:29:05