Marketing Against The Grain

Want to create AI Videos? Get the guide: https://clickhubspot.com/mhg Ep. 367 Will Sora 2 make TikTok obsolete? Kipp and Kieran dive into the jaw-dropping launch of Sora 2—a next-gen AI video model that’s shaking up everything we know about content, virality, and social networks. Learn more on why Sora 2 could redefine online personas with its AI cloning and “cameo” feature, what happens when anyone can monetize their digital likeness, and how the tidal wave of AI-generated “slop” is forcing marketers and brands to rethink what it means to stand out online. Mentions Sora 2 https://openai.com/index/sora-2/ V03 https://v03ai.com/ Heygen https://www.heygen.com/ ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our ultimate AI Marketing Playbook? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/bkm Ep, 366 Can ChatGPT or Perplexity convert customers at up to 13x the rate of a traditional Google search? Kipp and Neil Patel, of Co-Founder at Neil Patel Digital and co-host of Marketing School Podcast, dive into the game-changing marketing tactics you’ll be grateful for a year from now, sharing brand-new research and practical strategies for the AI era. Learn more on why optimizing for AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) is reshaping conversion rates, how creating content for both humans and AI gives you an edge, and which old-school marketing methods are making a comeback to drive real revenue. Mentions Neil Patel https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilkpatel Marketing School Podcast https://marketingschool.io/ NP Digital https://neilpatel.com/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our One-Person Agency Stack (with 10 prompts)? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/hvn Ep. 365 Will businesses need more humans than ever to actually make AI work? Kipp and Kieran dive into why the AI revolution is creating an explosion of opportunity for consultants and businesses who know how to integrate new technology. Learn more on why AI adoption is driving massive demand for human expertise, the skills you need to thrive as an AI consultant, and how the new era of PR gives founders—and real personalities—a fresh edge in business. Mentions Alex Lieberman https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-lieberman 10x Labs https://10xlabs.com.au/ Kaz Nejatian https://ca.linkedin.com/in/kasranejatian Opendoor https://www.opendoor.com/ Ramp https://ramp.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want the guide to implement AI Engine Optimization (AEO) to your content? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/ymv Ep. 364 Did you know Google’s new AI-powered Chrome could mark “the death of web pages” as we know them? Kipp and Kieran dive into how Google’s latest Gemini integration is completely transforming search, content consumption, and the future of SEO in 2025. Learn more on how AI is making clicks and traditional web browsing obsolete, why AEO (AI Engine Optimization) is the next big battleground for brands, and what marketers must do to adapt their strategies to a world of conversational and agentic search. Mentions Google Chrome https://www.google.com/chrome/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want to steal Gamma's influencer-led strategy? Get our 10 AI prompts: https://clickhubspot.com/hgb Ep. 363 Is influencer marketing the new product virality? Kipp and Kieran dive into the viral marketing playbook that skyrocketed an AI startup to $50M ARR and 50 million users with just 30 employees. Learn more on the explosive power of influencer-led growth, why building brand outranks traditional performance marketing, and the essential product feedback loops that every modern startup needs to stay ahead in the competitive AI era. Mentions Gamma https://gamma.app/ Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/ Lovable https://lovable.dev/ Anton Osika https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonosika/ Grant Lee https://www.linkedin.com/in/grantslee/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our free Loop Marketing Prompt Library (with 100 prompts)? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/kcl Ep. 362 Did you know that 58.5% of Google searches now end without a click? Kipp and Aja Frost, Sr. Director of Global Growth at HubSpot, dive into how AI has fundamentally changed the marketing landscape—and what you can do about it. Learn more on why old-school tactics like linear funnels and basic personalization are outdated, how “loop marketing” can future-proof your strategy, and which AI-powered tactics drive explosive growth when traffic and attention are harder than ever to capture. This episode was recorded at HubSpot’s Inbound 2025. Mentions HubSpot Inbound https://www.inbound.com/ Aja Frost https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajafrost/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Breeze Assistant https://knowledge.hubspot.com/ai/use-breeze-assistant Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want 22 ChatGPT Marketing Agents to handle your work? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/bpg Ep. 361 Marketing is only limited by your own creativity and ambition right now. Kipp and Nicholas Holland, Head of AI, SVP Product at HubSpot, dive into how the world’s top 1% of marketers are deploying AI for explosive growth. Learn more on why context is the most important word for AI in 2026, the rise of agents and assistants for every marketing use case, and how today’s marketers can 10x their creativity by practicing and pushing past the limits of what’s possible. Mentions Nicholas Holland https://www.linkedin.com/in/nashvilleholland/ HubSpot Breeze https://www.hubspot.com/products/ai ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Nano Banana https://nanobanana.ai/ Google Veo https://deepmind.google/models/veo/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want Kieran's 4 AI prompts that drive big results? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/uph Ep. 360 Did you know the CEO of Microsoft, just gave away his four most powerful daily AI prompts for boosting productivity and leadership? Kieran dives into how you can swipe, upgrade, and use the very same prompts Satya Nadella relies on every single day. Learn how to prep smarter for every meeting, get real-time project status updates, check if you’ll hit your deadlines, and analyze exactly how you’re spending your time. Mentions Satya Nadella https://www.linkedin.com/in/satyanadella/ Microsoft https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/ Microsoft Copilot https://copilot.microsoft.com/chats/HATNMvfutDfR73T3acuz1 Claude https://claude.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our NEW Loop Marketing Prompt Library? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/lmp Ep. 359 Did you know that 60% of Google searches now end without a single click? Kipp and Aja Frost, Sr. Director of Global Growth at HubSpot, dive into why traditional marketing is broken and what the future of conversions looks like in a world dominated by AI. Learn more about how AI is upending search and website traffic, why the future belongs to marketers who can personalize experiences at scale, and the brand new Loop Framework that will transform how you drive results in 2024 and beyond. Mentions Aja Frost https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajafrost/ HubSpot Loop Marketing https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Quora https://www.quora.com/ Reddit https://www.reddit.com/ Discord https://discord.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our complete app-building guide + $25 Lovable credit? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/fkw Ep. 358 10% of all new sites on the internet in June were built with Lovable Kieran dives into Lovable, the fastest-growing app in Europe, with its co-founder Anton Osika. Learn more about the implications for marketers and founders, how distribution and audience-building are evolving, and how to adapt your team and mindset to thrive in the era of AI-generated software. Mentions Anton Osika https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonosika/ Lovable https://lovable.dev/ Eoghan McCabe https://www.linkedin.com/in/eoghanmccabe/ Y Combinator https://www.ycombinator.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want Kieran's AI Executive Team Stack? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/kfv Ep. 357 Did you know 95% of all AI pilots are failing, according to a recent MIT study? Kieran dives into how the top 1% of executives, leaders, and founders are using AI to 10x their productivity—before lunch. Learn more about how to use AI as your Chief of Staff to eliminate blockers and prioritize your day, streamline your executive updates and communications, and leverage AI as a strategic thought partner to sharpen your critical thinking and problem solving. Mentions MIT https://www.mit.edu/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Custom GPT https://customgpt.ai/ Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want Elena's AI Tech Stack that helped grow her startup? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/fkv Ep. 356 Did you know Lovable is the fastest-growing AI app on the planet—scaling faster than ChatGPT? Kieran dives into what it takes to succeed in today’s AI-native startup world, with growth leader Elena Verna revealing how Lovable is changing the game for building and scaling tech companies. Learn more on why traditional management roles are disappearing, how end-to-end ownership and autonomy are driving insane speed at Lovable, and how the growth playbook is transforming for a generation of AI-powered products. Mentions Elena Verna https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaverna/ Lovable https://lovable.dev/ Cursor https://cursor.com/ Miro https://miro.com/ SurveyMonkey https://www.surveymonkey.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 355 Is the era of "who publishes the most content wins" over? Kipp, Kieran, and Alex Lieberman, co-founder of Morning Brew, dive into why marketers need to shift from churning out content to building a resonant brand identity that stands out in a crowded landscape. Learn more on why taste and speed—not just algorithms—will define marketing winners, the four moats shaping both software and content businesses, and how network effects and data are giving companies an unbeatable edge. Mentions Alex Lieberman https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-lieberman Morning Brew https://www.morningbrew.com/ Zapier https://zapier.com/ OpenAI https://openai.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our Full Stack AI Marketing Toolkit? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/wmb Ep. 354 Are marketing teams about to shrink because of AI? Kieran dives into how AI is transforming marketing teams, the skills that will set you apart, and what the future of marketing roles looks like. Learn more about the shift from specialists to generalists powered by AI, the two types of marketers who will thrive in the AI era (creative storytellers and engineer-led problem solvers), and why—even as teams get smaller—marketing is about to become more important, more valuable, and more fun than ever. Mentions Reddit Marketing https://www.reddit.com/r/marketing/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our 10 advanced prompts for GPT-5? Get em' here: https://clickhubspot.com/ngm Ep. 353 Is GPT-5 any good for creative writing, or is it just another overhyped AI release? Kipp dives into the one trick most marketers miss that instantly turns any AI into a better writing assistant. Learn how to craft a content ICP that actually works, why copy-paste marketers are doomed to mediocrity, and how tailoring your AI prompts with deep audience insights unlocks far more creative, original content. Mentions GPT-5 https://chatgpt.com/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want Darius' 20 Prompts to create killer ad content? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/jdm Ep. 352 Is AI actually making our content worse—and could human imperfections be the key to better marketing? Kipp and Kieran dive into the real impact of AI on creative originality with Darius Lam, CEO and founder of NEX, an AI content platform built for CPG brands. Learn more on why AI-generated content is forcing marketers to embrace imperfection, how brands can stand out in a world where AI makes everything look the same, and why the future belongs to those who balance creativity, authenticity, and scale. Mentions Darius Lam https://www.linkedin.com/in/dariuslam/ NEX https://nexcpg.com/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Duolingo https://www.duolingo.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our 10 Advanced Marketing Prompts to use with GPT-5? Get the list here: https://clickhubspot.com/jgp Ep. 351 GPT-5 is here for everyone (including free users) and it's a meaningful step forward for AI. Kipp breaks down OpenAI's hour-long livestream so you don't have to, covering what GPT-5 means for marketers, the biggest improvements in coding and writing, and why more people will use ChatGPT instead of Google for search. Learn about the key features that matter for business, from improved voice capabilities to better front-end design, plus why this democratization of advanced AI could transform how you build websites, create content, and reach customers. Mentions Aja Frost Episode https://youtu.be/gPKqvn-QS50?si=QaOol1Brf1tPCoHD OpenAI https://openai.com ChatGPT https://chat.openai.com Canvas https://openai.com/index/introducing-canvas Lovable https://lovable.dev Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want AI that works while you sleep? Get our blueprint for AI Agents in 2025: https://clickhubspot.com/wgv Ep. 350 Can you communicate four to five times faster with voice AI than typing? Kipp and Allan Guo, Cofounder & CEO at Willow, dive into the untapped power of voice AI for marketers, founders, and busy professionals, exploring how it can transform your workflow and help you get more done. Learn more on the game-changing uses of voice AI—from supercharging your email and Slack messaging, to brainstorming and iterating ideas with large language models, to radically improving your daily productivity and communication. Mentions Allan Guo https://www.linkedin.com/in/allan-guo/ Willow https://willowvoice.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ WeChat https://www.wechat.com/ Gamma https://gamma.app/ Granola https://www.granola.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want Kieran's AI Marketing Playbook for 2025? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/wcf Ep. 349 By 2027, will 95% of all B2B buyer journeys start on an LLM? Kipp and Kieran dive into the essential AI-powered marketing playbook for building a modern marketing plan from scratch in today’s rapidly changing landscape. Learn more on how to win in AI search and boost your share of voice, why mastering short-form content is the new superpower for marketers, and how intent data and micro-audience campaigns can drive greater results than ever before. Mentions ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Canva https://www.canva.com/ XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our 6 AI-engineered prompts to turn Claude into your own data analyst? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/vwr Ep. 348 What if you could build an entire year-long content strategy in just one AI prompt? Kipp dives into the brand new HubSpot and Claude AI integration that's set to revolutionize how marketers work. Learn more on building your ideal customer profiles and personalized content calendars, running instant marketing attribution and ROI analysis, and developing lead nurturing and account-based marketing campaigns—all directly inside Claude and HubSpot. Mentions Claude https://claude.ai/ HubSpot https://www.hubspot.com/company-news/hubspot-connector-claude Anthropic https://www.anthropic.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod