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The Note Investor Podcast will guide you through the ups and downs of note investing, and teach you about all of the nitty gritty details of the business that other people won’t talk about . Your host, Dan Deppen is a former aerospace engineer and product manager who transitioned away from cubicle life to full time note investing in 2018. Our website is www.fusionnotes.com, where you can subscribe to this podcast, comment, and find links to other information on note investing.

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The Note Investor Podcast will guide you through the ups and downs of note investing, and teach you about all of the nitty gritty details of the business that other people won’t talk about . Your host, Dan Deppen is a former aerospace engineer and product manager who transitioned away from cubicle life to full time note investing in 2018. Our website is www.fusionnotes.com, where you can subscribe to this podcast, comment, and find links to other information on note investing.

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#130: Using Podcasts to Raise Capital, with Dave Dubeau

7/14/2025
In this podcast, Dan interviews Dave Dubeau, a Canadian real estate investor who shares his journey from starting over with no credit to becoming a successful capital raiser and podcast host. Dave discusses his approach to real estate investing and his current focus on helping syndicators and fund managers raise capital from accredited investors through his Property Profits Real Estate Podcast. The conversation explores various strategies for leveraging podcasts for personal branding, content creation, and networking, including the use of AI for content repurposing and the importance of maintaining business knowledge while utilizing automation tools. Learn more from and connect with Dave Dubeau: Connect with Dave on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davedubeau/ Free ebook on getting 20 accredited investor meetings per month: https://20accreditedinvestorsbook.com/ Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? COMPREHENSIVE NOTE BUYING COURSE: https://www.notelaunchpad.com

Duration:00:22:55

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#129: Shifting from Rentals to Owner Finance, with David Kahl

7/7/2025
David Kahl, a South Carolina real estate investor, shares his journey from traditional flips and rentals to building a portfolio of owner-financed notes starting in 2017. In this episode, David breaks down his strategies for acquiring and financing properties using seller financing and private money. He also discusses how he manages notes, including the risks and rewards of subject-to deals, wrap loans, and effective marketing tactics for sourcing deals. The conversation wraps up with insights on the current landscape of real estate investing—highlighting the importance of local investor associations for connecting with private lenders and note buyers. Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? COMPREHENSIVE NOTE BUYING COURSE: https://www.notelaunchpad.com

Duration:00:31:28

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#128: Seller Finance and Subto - with Hans Moscicke

6/30/2025
In this episode Hans shared his journey from academia to real estate investing, focusing on his experiences with wholesaling properties and transitioning to creating notes and investing in properties subject to existing loans. The discussion covered various aspects of real estate investing, including the importance of building trust with sellers, understanding motivated seller characteristics, and navigating sub-2 deals and their complexities. Hans and Dan explored different investment models, including contract for deeds and mortgages, while discussing challenges like insurance issues and the process of converting land contracts to mortgages. Learn more from Hans: Sub2Investor YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@sub2investor Sub2Investor Website - https://www.sub2investor.com/ Email - hans@sub2investor.com Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? COMPREHENSIVE NOTE BUYING COURSE: https://www.notelaunchpad.com

Duration:00:56:28

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#128: The Role of Transaction Coordinators in Creative Finance Deals

6/24/2025
Dan interviews Dee Simpson, a transaction coordinator, to discuss her background and the role of transaction coordinators in real estate, including their responsibilities in managing and facilitating transactions after contract execution. They explore common mistakes investors make when reviewing documents and working with vendors, emphasizing the importance of thorough contract reading and legal consultation. The conversation delves into the complexities of land contracts versus mortgages, including legal challenges and regulatory restrictions, while also covering subject-to deals and the role of servicing companies in managing payments and providing paper trails. To engage with Dee on your next creative deal, go to: https://coordinatedconnect.com/ or send her an email at: dee@coordinatedconnect.com. Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? COMPREHENSIVE NOTE BUYING COURSE: https://www.notelaunchpad.com

Duration:00:26:31

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#126: Going From 0 to 40 Deals in 4 Years, with David Friedman

6/3/2025
In this episode, we sit down with Dave Friedman, a seasoned real estate investor, as he shares his journey from building a rental portfolio to transitioning into property flipping and creative strategies like seller financing. Tune in to hear the lessons he’s learned, the challenges he’s overcome, and how he’s adapted his approach to maximize returns in today’s market. Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? COMPREHENSIVE NOTE BUYING COURSE: https://www.notelaunchpad.com

Duration:00:37:58

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#125: Underwriting Secrets for Creative Finance, Wraps and Subto Deals

5/29/2025
This podcast is a replay of a webinar from 5/23/25 where I discussed 10 aspects of underwriting new seller finance loans that you may not have considered. Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? COMPREHENSIVE NOTE BUYING COURSE: https://www.notelaunchpad.com

Duration:01:02:51

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#124: Dan Rambles About AI

5/15/2025
In this episode, I kick off a new series exploring how AI is transforming real estate note investing and creative finance strategies. I break down foundational AI concepts and their evolution, and share insights from my experience implementing AI at major tech companies. Tune in to hear where AI shines—and where it still falls short—when it comes to streamlining administrative work and supporting complex decision-making in real estate investing. Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining

Duration:00:16:20

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#123: Note Buying vs Note Creating

5/6/2025
In this podcast I discuss some of the differences I have noticed between note buyers and note creators, and also provide some updates and lessons learned from the recent DME conference in Nashville.

Duration:00:20:14

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#122: Real Estate Note Investing: How to Avoid 7 Costly Mistakes

4/4/2025
This podcast is from a webinar that covered 7 costly mistakes that both new and experienced note investors commonly make. For a few days only, you can take advantage of the Spring Sale for the Note Launchpad online training course and SAVE $1000 off the normal price: https://notelaunchpad.com/

Duration:01:05:16

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#121: 45 Years of Creative Finance Deals, with Joe Homs

4/1/2025
In this episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Joe Holmes, a seasoned real estate investor with over 45 years of experience. Joe shared his journey, from purchasing his first investment property to his current strategy of using "subject to" financing for house flipping. We dove into the details of subject-to loans, the process of creating notes as part of real estate deals, and the challenges that come with selling those notes on the secondary market. Joe also offered his insights on the current state of the real estate market, predicting an economic turnaround and a continued lack of supply that could drive prices higher. It was a fascinating conversation packed with valuable insights for anyone navigating the real estate and note investing world. Connect with Joe: https://joehoms.com/ Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining

Duration:00:22:28

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#120: Mastering Real Estate Market Cycles, with Dave Franecki

3/25/2025
Dave Franecki joined me on the podcast to discuss his extensive background in notes and real estate. He shared his journey from being a commercial landscape contractor to becoming a real estate agent and builder. We also discussed the economic cycles and their impact on the real estate market, the importance of cleaning one's portfolio during a downturn, and the potential of the west valley of Phoenix. The conversation also covered the concept of 4-year balloon notes, the changing landscape of the market, the benefits of investing in personal property trusts and IRAs, and the potential of consulting work and sharing knowledge with new investors. Learn more about Dave and connect with him here: https://seller-carry.com/ https://capstonecapitalusa.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@davefranecki387 Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining

Duration:00:32:07

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#119: From a W2 to Full Time Real Estate Investing, with Ryan Chaw

2/20/2025
Want to quit your job and dive into real estate full-time? The hard truth is that it takes time, savings, and a strategic plan. In this episode, Ryan shares how he made the leap—retiring at just 31 years old. Ryan walks us through his journey from a traditional W-2 career to building wealth through real estate. He breaks down how he acquired rental properties, leveraged equity, and ultimately replaced his income. We also discuss the financial side of investing, property management, and his transition from pharmacist to full-time investor. Plus, Ryan highlights the importance of setting clear goals, starting early, and putting in the work to achieve financial freedom. Get Ryan's free guide for newbies: https://www.newbierealestateinvesting.com/guide Check out Ryan's coaching here: https://www.newbierealestateinvesting.com/real-estate-investment-coaching-program/ Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining PREMIUM CONTENT: Get a roadmap that shows you a step-by-step path for being a note investor, https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/gameplan NOTE INVESTING ONLINE COURSES: https://www.fusionnotes.com/courses/ DAN'S LINKS FOR PODCAST LISTENERS: https:www.fusionnotes.com/listeners Get the FREE EBOOK on How to Make Outsized Profits in Notes in 2025: https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/newsletter-signup-page-podcast WEBSITE: https://fusionnotes.com

Duration:00:27:08

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#118: Investing in Reverse Mortgages, with Beth Hale

2/13/2025
Beth has been investing in performing and non-performing notes since 2012. In this podcast she discussed some of the details and nuances involved with reverse mortgages. Connect with Beth here: Beth.Hale@efinitymortgage.com or https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethhalemortgagespecialist/ Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/

Duration:00:32:50

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#117: Mobile Home Investing, with James and Alden Guajardo

2/5/2025
Dan, James, and Alden Guajardo discussed the value of investing in mobile home notes, highlighting the increasing demand for manufactured housing due to affordability and the potential for higher returns. Connect with James and Alden here: https://www.mobilemailboxmoney.com/ Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining PREMIUM CONTENT: Get a roadmap that shows you a step-by-step path for being a note investor, https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/gameplan NOTE INVESTING ONLINE COURSES: https://www.fusionnotes.com/courses/ DAN'S LINKS FOR PODCAST LISTENERS: https:www.fusionnotes.com/listeners Get the FREE EBOOK on How to Make Outsized Profits in Notes in 2025: https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/newsletter-signup-page-podcast WEBSITE: https://fusionnotes.com

Duration:00:33:05

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#116: Self Directing Retirement, with Brett Synicky

1/30/2025
Brett Synicky from Sense Financial joined the podcast to dive into the world of self-directed retirement accounts. We explored the key differences between self-directed IRAs and solo 401(k)s, the impact of investing in an IRA before age 59½, and the nuances of UBIT (Unrelated Business Income Tax). Brett also shared insights on the importance of aligning investments with personal knowledge and risk tolerance, as well as the growing popularity of private lending and real estate among his clients. Tune in for a valuable discussion on maximizing retirement funds through alternative investments! Connect with Brett Synicky SENSE FINANCIAL: https://www.sensefinancial.com/ Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining PREMIUM CONTENT: Get a roadmap that shows you a step-by-step path for being a note investor, https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/gameplan NOTE INVESTING ONLINE COURSES: https://www.fusionnotes.com/courses/ DAN'S LINKS FOR PODCAST LISTENERS: https:www.fusionnotes.com/listeners Get the FREE EBOOK on How to Make Outsized Profits in Notes in 2025: https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/newsletter-signup-page-podcast WEBSITE: https://fusionnotes.com

Duration:00:24:44

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#115: Setting a Clear Vision, with Dan Zitofsky

1/21/2025
Join me on the podcast as I sit down with Dan Zitofsky, a highly experienced real estate investor with over 35 years in the industry. Dan shares his journey from flipping properties to building a passive income portfolio through non-performing notes. By rehabbing properties and selling them to investors using seller financing, Dan has effectively transitioned into acting as a bank, earning consistent income without the headaches of tenants or property management. In our conversation, Dan breaks down his approach to evaluating notes, focusing on whether he’d be willing to own the underlying property. He also shares strategies for maximizing returns by leveraging notes and reflects on how these techniques could have dramatically impacted his career and passive income had he adopted them earlier. We delve into the importance of setting clear goals, aligning personal values with business decisions, and taking action even when faced with fear or uncertainty. Dan also highlights the value of networking and attending events to grow and refine your vision. This episode is packed with actionable insights and inspiration for investors at every stage. Don’t miss it! Connect with Dan Zitofsky ZITOFSKY CAPITAL MANAGEMENT: https://zitofskycapitalmanagement.com/ PASSIVE WEALTH ACADEMY: https://www.passivewealthacademy.com/ Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining PREMIUM CONTENT: Get a roadmap that shows you a step-by-step path for being a note investor, https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/gameplan NOTE INVESTING ONLINE COURSES: https://www.fusionnotes.com/courses/ DAN'S LINKS FOR PODCAST LISTENERS: https:www.fusionnotes.com/listeners Get the FREE EBOOK on How to Make Outsized Profits in Notes in 2025: https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/newsletter-signup-page-podcast WEBSITE: https://fusionnotes.com

Duration:00:38:43

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#113: How to Sell Your Note for a Premium, with Rachel Sims

1/2/2025
Rachel purchases hundreds of notes per year as a Loan Acquisitions Officer for First National Acceptance Company (FNAC). FNAC is one of the largest note buyers in the industry, and Rachel shared some of the factors that influence what they are willing to pay for a note. We also discussed the closing and due diligence processes for note deals, the nuances of working in different states, land and mobile home notes, and much more. So if you have notes you may want to sell or are creating your own notes through seller finance deals, you will want to pay attention to learn how you can maximize their value. You can get in touch with Rachel directly at rachel.sims@fnba.com, and learn more about FNAC HERE. Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining PREMIUM CONTENT: Get a roadmap that shows you a step-by-step path for being a note investor, https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/gameplan NOTE INVESTING ONLINE COURSES: https://www.fusionnotes.com/courses/ DAN'S LINKS FOR PODCAST LISTENERS: https:www.fusionnotes.com/listeners Get the FREE EBOOK on How to Make Outsized Profits in Notes in 2024: https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/newsletter-signup-page-podcast WEBSITE: https://fusionnotes.com

Duration:00:33:29

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27 Years of Loan Servicing and Origination, with Sohail Badruddin

12/19/2024
In this week’s podcast, I was joined by Sohail Badruddin, owner of Provident Loan Servicing and an RMLO in Texas. Sohail shares insights from his extensive experience in the mortgage industry and discusses his vision for Provident Loan Servicing. He delves into the challenges and risks of mortgage lending, such as prepayment penalties, balloon provisions, and borrower bankruptcies. Additionally, Sohail covers key aspects of loan servicing and origination, emphasizing the importance of proper borrower qualification and strict adherence to timelines. Learn more about Provident Loan Servicing here: https://www.providentls.com/ Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining PREMIUM CONTENT: Get a roadmap that shows you a step-by-step path for being a note investor, https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/gameplan NOTE INVESTING ONLINE COURSES: https://www.fusionnotes.com/courses/ DAN'S LINKS FOR PODCAST LISTENERS: https:www.fusionnotes.com/listeners Get the FREE EBOOK on How to Make Outsized Profits in Notes in 2024: https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/newsletter-signup-page-podcast WEBSITE: https://fusionnotes.com

Duration:00:30:38

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#111: Live Note Investing Events, with Ben Fredericks

12/12/2024
In this podcast, Ben Fredricks joined to discuss the note events industry, and he also shared his background in mortgage and his involvement in the note space. We explored the potential of note investing as a new opportunity for a younger generation and shared some of our experiences in the real estate business, particularly in the non-performing note sector. The conversation concluded with an invitation to an upcoming event in Scottsdale, Arizona, where they will be meeting and discussing various topics related to the real estate business. To sign up for the NoteWorthy Investor Summit in Scottsdale Feb 28 - Mar 1, go here: https://noteworthyusa.com/noteworthy-investor-summit-2025/. Use the coupon code FUSION100 to save $100 on the ticket. Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/ Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? SMALL GROUP LIVE COACHING: https://www.fusionnotes.com/livetraining PREMIUM CONTENT: Get a roadmap that shows you a step-by-step path for being a note investor, https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/gameplan NOTE INVESTING ONLINE COURSES: https://www.fusionnotes.com/courses/ DAN'S LINKS FOR PODCAST LISTENERS: https:www.fusionnotes.com/listeners Get the FREE EBOOK on How to Make Outsized Profits in Notes in 2024: https://fusionnotes.ac-page.com/newsletter-signup-page-podcast WEBSITE: https://fusionnotes.com

Duration:00:24:51

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#110: Creating Valuable Seller Financed Notes, with Fred and Tracy Rewey

12/3/2024
Dan, Tracy, and Fred discussed the creation and benefits of seller finance notes, emphasizing the importance of creating valuable notes for both holding and potential resale. They also discussed the size and growth of the owner finance market, the increasing trend of seller financing due to tightening traditional loan markets, and strategies for note creation and selling. The conversation ended with a discussion on the importance of compliance with regulations, the potential of using an MLO and a servicing agent, and the increasing popularity of seller finance. To see the slides from this webinar, you can watch on the YouTube channel HERE. Get Fred and Tracy's course on how to create seller-financed notes HERE

Duration:01:00:15