Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott interviews Kathy Sanders, who lost two of her grandchildren in the Oklahoma City bombing and has spent the years since trying to get to the bottom of what really happened that day. Sanders tells Scott about her experience arriving quickly on the scene after the attack before they dive into all she’s been able to piece together and how she’s working to get the truth out. Discussed on the show: Shadows of Conspiracy by Kathy Sanders The Secret Life of Bill Clinton: The Unreported Stories by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Oklahoma City Bombing Archive An American Bombing: The Road to April 19th (IMDb) Oklahoma City: What the Investigation Missed—and Why It Still Matters by Andrew Gumbel and Roger G. Charles Kathy Sanders lost two young grandchildren, who lived with her, in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. In the years since, she has conducted extensive interviews with those involved to try to get to the bottom of what happened that April morning in 1995. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott interviews Bill Buppert about two potential conflicts that some groups within the Trump administration appear to be pushing for. They start with the reported interest shown in carrying out direct military operations against the Mexican cartels. Scott and Buppert discuss why this would be a terrible idea and that it would likely not stay contained in Northern Mexico. They then take a look at the prospects for a war with Iran and draw similar conclusions. Discussed on the show: Sicario (IMDb) Chasing Ghosts Podcast WarNotes Podcast Bill Buppert is the Smedley D. Butler Fellow for Military Affairs at the Libertarian Institute and host of Chasing Ghosts: An Irregular Warfare Podcast. He served in the military for nearly a quarter century and was a combat tourist in a number of neo-imperialist shit-pits planet-wide. He can be found on Twitter at @wbuppert and reached via email at cgpodcast@pm.me. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott brings Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone back onto the show to discuss developments in the Middle East. They start with a recording that The Grayzone recently published in which AIPAC leaders were bragging internally about having total control over Trump’s foreign policy team. That leads into a broader discussion of AIPAC’s playbook when steering Washington’s Middle East policy to the Israeli government’s benefit. Scott and Blumenthal also discuss how a war with Iran would most likely play out, what Israel is currently doing in Syria, the health of Turkish President Erdoğan and more. Discussed on the show: Leaked audio: AIPAC leader details control over Trump natsec team Big Israel: How Israel's Lobby Moves America by Grant F. Smith Max Blumenthal is a senior editor of the Grayzone Project and the author Goliath, Republican Gomorrah and The 51 Day War. Follow him on Twitter @MaxBlumenthal. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott interviews Ted Snider about some articles he wrote recently about the war in Ukraine. First they look at an article published recently in The New York Times that detailed the length the US was going to, on the ground, to help Ukraine fight the Russians. Scott and Snider discuss the significance of the article before finishing with a look at where things stand on the front right now. Discussed on the show: “New York Times Blockbuster Article Prepares Americans for Defeat in Ukraine” (Antiwar.com) “The Secret History of the War in Ukraine” (The New York Times) “No Quick End to the War in Ukraine” (Antiwar.com) Ted Snider has a graduate degree in philosophy and writes on analyzing patterns in U.S. foreign policy and history. He is a regular writer for Truthout, MondoWeiss and antiwar.com. To support Ted’s work, you can make a PayPal contribution at tedsnider14@gmail.com. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott is joined by Jeff Deist to talk about the political situation we find ourselves in and how it should impact the strategies used to push for more liberty at home and fewer interventions abroad. They discuss Trump’s foreign policy, tariffs, the national debt and more. Discussed on the show: Ex America by Garet Garrett The Great Deformation by David Stockman Jeff Deist is General Counsel of Monetary Metals. He previously worked as President of the Mises Institute, where he serves as a writer, public speaker, and advocate for property, markets, and civil society and as a longtime advisor and chief of staff to Congressman Ron Paul, for whom he wrote hundreds of articles and speeches. Follow him on Twitter @jeffdeist. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Taibbi returns to the show to discuss his recent testimony in front of Congress. They start by quickly going over the false claim one Democratic Congresswoman leveled at Taibbi before he testified and why he’s now suing her for $10 million. They then get into the meat of his testimony, which leads them onto a discussion of government censorship, what we know now about Russiagate and more. Discussed on the show: “A Response to a Member of Congress” (Racket News) “Exclusive: Clinton Plans Long In The Making” (Sleuth News) Racket Library Matt Taibbi is a journalist, author and political commentator. Subscribe to his Substack publication: Racket News and follow him on Twitter @mtaibbi. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott interviews Gary Vogler about the book he published last year with the Libertarian Institute: Israel, Winner of the 2003 Iraq Oil War. Vogler explains his background managing oil in Iraq on behalf of the Pentagon. They then dive into Vogler’s insights about how the oil trade—especially the secret oil trade between Israel and its regional neighbors—lies at the heart of the geopolitical dynamic in the Middle East and all the American interventions there in recent decades. Discussed on the show: Israel, Winner of the 2003 Iraq Oil War: Undue Influence, Deceptions, and the Neocon Energy Agenda by Gary Vogler Iraq and the Politics of Oil: An Insider's Perspective by Gary Vogler Treacherous Alliance: The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran, and the United States by Trita Parsi Rumsfeld: His Rise, Fall, and Catastrophic Legacy by Andrew Cockburn “Plan B” (The New Yorker) Private Empire: ExxonMobil and American Power by Steve Coll Gary Vogler is a 1973 West Point graduate, retired army reserve lieutenant colonel, retired ExxonMobil executive with 21 years, five months of Iraq oil planning at Pentagon followed by 75 months in Iraq under DOD - appointed Oil Minister during first 10 days in Baghdad in April 2003. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jesse Trentadue returns to the show after a long hiatus for a deep dive on the Oklahoma City bombing with Scott and Richard Booth. The three explore what we know about what happened, how it differs from the official narrative and what most likely explains the gaps in our knowledge. Discussed on the show: Oklahoma City Bombing Archive In Bad Company: America's Terrorist Underground by Mark S. Hamm The Secret Life of Bill Clinton: The Unreported Stories by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Oklahoma City: What the Investigation Missed—and Why It Still Matters by Andrew Gumbel and Roger G. Charles “Why did this cop turn up dead?” (CNN) An American Bombing: The Road to April 19th (IMDb) Richard Booth is the Glenn D. Wilburn Fellow at the Libertarian Institute and an independent citizen journalist and member of the Constitution First Amendment Press Association (CFAPA). You can find Richard’s journalism at The Libertarian Institute, and on his Substack. Follow him on Twitter @booth_okc Jesse Trentadue is a lawyer and the brother of Kenneth “Kenny” Trentadue, who Jesse believes was killed by police after being mistaken for Timothy McVeigh’s accomplice in the Oklahoma City Bombing. Jesse is on a decades-long quest to seek justice for his brother’s death and unveil what really happened in the days and weeks surrounding the April 19, 1995 attack. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ken Klippenstein joins Scott to discuss some articles he recently wrote about the plan the American government has for fighting a war with Iran. They start with a discussion of Trump’s strikes on the Houthis of Yemen and then get into all Klippenstein’s learned about how Washington would go about fighting a hot war against the Iranian regime. Discussed on the show: “Trump Is Now at War With Iran” (Substack) “The Iran War Plan” (Substack) “The Nuclear War Plan for Iran” (Substack) Kenneth Klippenstein is an American journalist who worked at The Intercept. Prior to joining The Intercept, Klippenstein was the D.C. Correspondent at The Nation, and previously was a senior investigative reporter for the online news program The Young Turks. Follow his work on Substack This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott brings Muhammad Sahimi back on the show to talk about recent developments in Iran. They discuss the Trump administration’s relationship with the Iranian regime, the political dynamic within Iran and much more. Discussed on the show: “'Max pressure' 2.0 on Iran could trigger a nuclear crisis” (Responsible Statecraft) “How Iran quietly buttressed its pledge to not build nukes” (Responsible Statecraft) Muhammad Sahimi is a professor at the University of Southern California who analyzes Iran’s political developments, its nuclear program, and foreign policy. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Daniel Davis returns to the show to give an update on the war in Ukraine. He and Scott discuss the ongoing talks, the consequences of Ukraine’s incursion into the Kursk region of Russia, the presence of North Korean troops, the actual Russian objectives on the battlefield and more. Discussed on the show: Watch Daniel Davis’ Show on YouTube Daniel Davis did multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan during his time in the army. He is a Senior Fellow at Defense Priorities and is the author of the reports “Dereliction of Duty II: Senior Military Leaders’ Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort” and “Go Big or Go Deep: An Analysis of Strategy Options on Afghanistan.” Find him on Twitter @DanielLDavis1and subscribe to his YouTube Channel. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott interviews Thomas Eddlem about an article he recently published at the Libertarian Institute about how our economic system is ripping off the American working class. He and Scott dig into how inflation, regulations and programs like Social Security hurt the very people most think the government is around to help. Discussed on the show: “Plutocratic America’s War on the Working Class” (Libertarian Institute) Thomas R. Eddlem is the William Norman Grigg Fellow at the Libertarian Institute, an economist and a freelance writer. He has written three books and holds a masters of applied economics and data scientist certification from Boston College. He lives in Taunton, Massachusetts with his wife Cathy and family. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Economist Mark Thornton of the Mises Institute returns to the show for a quick look at the state of the economy. He and Scott zoom out and try to determine where in the cycle between artificial booms and recessions we find ourselves. Discussed on the show: Anatomy of the Crash Extractive Psychology - Minor Issues Podcast with Mark Thornton Mark Thornton is a senior fellow at the Mises Institute. His most recent book is The Skyscraper Curse: And How Austrian Economists Predicted Every Major Economic Crisis of the Last Century. Follow him on Twitter @DrMarkThornton This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tim Shorrock returns to the show to talk about the tumultuous last three months in South Korea and the potential for Trump to finally make some serious progress on relations with North Korea. They start with a look at the martial law episode that TKed South Korea last December. Shorrock explains the characters involved and lays out what’s likely to happen next. He and Scott then zoom out and think through what the Trump administration may do differently with North and South Korea this time around. Discussed on the show: Spies for Hire by Tim Shorrock Tim Shorrock is the author of Spies For Hire: The Secret World of Intelligence Outsourcing and a regular contributor to The Nation and the Korea Center for Investigative Reporting. Follow him on Twitter @TimothyS. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan McKnight returns to the show to talk about the ongoing effort to pass the Defend the Guard Act in state legislatures. First, he explains what Defend the Guard would do if passed and dispels common criticisms and misunderstandings of the bill. He then updates Scott on the progress made recently, including the positive statements made by now Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and explains how you can help get this bill passed in your state. Discussed on the show: DefendTheGuard.us BringOurTroopsHome.us TenSevenClub.com Dan McKnight is the founder and Chairman of Idahoans to Bring Our Troops Home. He served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserves, three years active duty with the U.S. Army and ten years with the Idaho Army National Guard, including a one-year deployment to Afghanistan in 2006. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott brings William van Wagenen on to talk about what he observed on his recent trip to Syria. They dig into what’s happened since the Jihadists took control last December, often looking to parallels in the ISIS takeover of western Iraq about a decade ago. They also look at the broader geopolitical dynamic of the region and consider how all of this will play out in the next few years. Discussed on the show: Van Wagenen’s article at The Libertarian Institute Van Wagenen’s article at The Cradle William Van Wagenen has a BA in German literature From Brigham Young University and an MA in Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School. You can read his other writings on Syria for the Libertarian Institute here. Follow him on Twitter @wvanwagenen This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott brings Kyle Anzalone back on the show to discuss some of the biggest ongoing news stories related to American foreign policy. They start with Trump’s effort to end the war in Ukraine. They also discuss Trump’s recent comments about nuclear weapons and his Oval Office spat with Zelensky. They then move to Gaza where Anzalone says the ceasefire is holding by a thread. They finish by zooming out and looking at all Israel is up to in the region. Discussed on the show: “Trump: Everybody Should Get Rid of Their Nuclear Weapons” (Libertarian Institute) Kyle Anzalone is news editor of the Libertarian Institute, opinion editor of Antiwar.com, co-host of Conflicts of Interest and host of The Kyle Anzalone Show. Follow him on Twitter @KyleAnzalone_ This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott is joined by Brad Pearce to discuss some of the recent developments around the world that he’s following and writing about. They start with what’s happening in Somalia and how the Trump administration will likely affect the dynamics in that region. They then move on to Yemen, where Trump’s first term was defined by continuing Obama’s support for the Saudi war on the Houthis, and his second term has—so far—been defined by a continuation of Biden’s policy of direct strikes on the Houthis. They also discuss Romania, the revelations about USAID and Washington’s meddling in the country of Georgia. Discussed on the show: “Will Donald Trump Make Somaliland Great Again?” (The Wayward Rabbler) Broken Camel Bells: Somalia: Age of Terrorism 2006-2022 by Abukar Abdo Arman “Yemeni Civil War Unleashes a Plague of Locusts” (Antiwar.com) Brad Pearce is a writer focused on international relations and politics. He writes at The Wayward Rabbler. Follow him on Twitter @WaywardRabbler This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott brings Daniel Davis back on the show to discuss where things stand in Ukraine. Despite quieter news coverage here in the US, Ukraine is still taking serious losses. Davis details what’s happening and reflects with Scott about how unnecessary all of this death and destruction has been. They finish with a quick look at Trump’s budding nuclear doctrine. Discussed on the show: Watch Daniel Davis’ Show on YouTube Daniel Davis did multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan during his time in the army. He is a Senior Fellow at Defense Priorities and is the author of the reports “Dereliction of Duty II: Senior Military Leaders’ Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort” and “Go Big or Go Deep: An Analysis of Strategy Options on Afghanistan.” Find him on Twitter @DanielLDavis1and subscribe to his YouTube Channel. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott interviews Kyle Anzalone about what’s happening in Gaza, Jenin, southern Syria and Damascus. They start with Gaza, where eighty Palestinians have been killed since the ceasefire came into effect. Anzalone then gives a rundown of what Israel appears set on doing with the West Bank and the territory in southern Syria that they now occupy. They finish with a look at what the new regime in Syria is up to. Discussed on the show: “Trump Insists Egypt and Jordan Will Take Palestinians From Gaza” (Antiwar.com) “Dear World: This Is What Palestinian Unity Looks Like” (Antiwar.com) “Israeli troops forcibly displace 20,000 Palestinians from Jenin” (The Cradle) Kyle Anzalone is news editor of the Libertarian Institute, opinion editor of Antiwar.com and co-host of Conflicts of Interest with Will Porter and Connor Freeman. Follow him on Twitter @KyleAnzalone_ This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Robers Brokerage Incorporated; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; Libertas Bella; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices